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hey guys now that i have your attention with the topic, would a goldfish or two be okay in a 20gallon long fish tank?? i am not planning on going to the fish store until this weekend or the next,but please reply with any info you have on this set up or, with any info on goldfish...

That answer is extremely simple NO they just get too big. When Babelfish sees this she will possibly post a photo of an adult gold fish.

Another concern with your tank is it is a 20g long this greatly reduces the water surface area and can reduce the number of fish you can have. The tank might also require an air stone to give a greater surface area as well.

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wouldnt the fact that it is longer then tall increase the surface area?

oh and if it is way to small what setup would you recomend?

Keith, I am also confused. The 20 gallon high has less surface area than the 20 gallon long.

If your tank is coldwater, you don't have many options. A school of white cloud mountain minnows would be a good start.

If your tank is heated, there are hundreds of species of fish that are appropriate for a 20 gallon tank. Since you haven't really narrowed it we're just going to have to just pick out some various random choices we think would be good. My recommendation would be one or two of a centerpiece fish (ie. dwarf gourami, guppies), a school of about 6 small fish like a tetra, barb, or rasbora, and some bottom feeders like a cory school.

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Goldfish do get too large for a 20. What I remember reading when I saw this photo was that Bruce here wasn't even fully grown when this photo was taken


Also keep in mind that goldfish are pretty active fish and a 20 just wouldn't give them swimming room.


If you're looking for fish that are the golden color of goldfish I'd recommend gold barbs. They're in the same family as goldfish and have a pretty wide temp range. A school of 6-10 with some bottom feeders, say smaller corys would do well in a 20.


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Using a standard tank shape size this would be the biggest surface area no problems with that.
A tall tank would depend on how tall it is.
Also the long thank would depend on its length and with. We have seen long tanks only inches wide and I have seen circular tanks 6ft+ tall with small top surfaces.

With so many tank sizes around today it would be advisable to always post the tank size not only its empty capacity.

I hope that clears that up sorry for the confusion.

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i think i will go with franks idea. a flame dawrf gourami, 6 tetras(i still need to look around to see what type i want) and 4 julii corys if it sounds good to you guys.....

AFAIK, the 20 gallon long is the standard size, at least it is over here.

That is a great stocking for a 20 gallon. Remember, his stocking list is a tropical one, so you'll need a heater if you don't already have one. If you don't know what they are already, read up on the Nitrogen cycle and cycling and you'll be good to go!

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hey would you guys reccomend a certain type of tetra? I tried to find one but there are just so many!!! oh and they need to be ok with the fish I have already posted....

cardinal
rummy nose
ember
buenos aires (probably too big)
congo (probably too big)


i'd say keep away from neons, serpaes,black widow/black skirt, and a few others... what does your lFS have that you like?

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i like the ones you said brandon but i heard that cardinals die easy if the ph is not at like an exact amount. is that true? other then that i really like them....

how bout lemon tetras?

I have had Cardinals for ages and never a problem they are easy to keep and feedm, naturally like all fish the tank must be OK for them
For some reason I have heard the same story many times from USA about Cardinals but in Aust they area stronger and healthy fish and less likely to give you problems.

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try like three at first if you are skeptical about any fish. if they work out then go all out and get the rest of your school/shoal.

there shouldn't be any problems with them if they are good and healthy when you buy them. if you get rummy nose tetras there are certain guidelines you should follow for transport as they are delicate and fish that over stress VERY VERY easily.

if you look on other threads for rummy nose tetras you should find some valuable information as I do not know the specifics.

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hey guys i think i might go with some zebra danios if they sound okay to you guys...reason being because it says that 1 they can help speed up the cycleing process and 2 i actually saw some danios at petco that were like neon orange and i thought that they would really brighten up the tank does that sound okay to you guys or will it cause poblems later on??? oh and would you guys reccomend a certain type of live plant for my tank?? i saw some onlline but i am not sure what i need to look for in a plant as i have always used fake ones.....

research the fish species first, if they are glolight danios they are bred with a jellyfish DNA sequence that causes their coloration (as far as I have read) if not they could be injected with dyes which can be terrible for any tank. Zebra Danios or White cloud Mountain Minnows would be best for cycling the tank.

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hey guys i was just thinking what if they dont have the fish i want tomorrow when i go to the fish store so i want to have a couple of options before i go so is there any way i can make it an aggresive tank? or is it to small.... i was thinking a aggresive cichlid or something but i am not sure if the tank is big enough....

Now you are starting to learn about fish keeping. One rule is never impulse buy, and be prepared to wait, and get exactly the fish you want. If you do see some nice fish that you like do some research here and ask about it first this could save you a lot of problems.

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