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my main concern is observing what's going on - i would absolutely be swimming with goggles (i'm dreaming of a south american biotope heaven - 1000's of cardinals and rummynoses....imagine swimming in with them!!!!!) but i think you may want to get surface fish too - hatchets? butterfly fish? (butterflies will help keep yr guppy population down, too) pencilfish? if not, then i think you need braver species which don't care about coming to the surface, i used to keep quite big outdoor ponds full of swordtails and platies when i lived in malaysia. they looked great from above. hehehe - i just imagined u with a snorkel and goggles just lying around the pool with yr head underwater...don't get dishpan ears!!! and wash out the gel first!!!

If I had a 28K gallon pool/tank I'll add Heaps of Frontosa's

Hope to see pics soon, and best of luck with the setup.

I think you should have 20 archerfish in it.

Keep a large, insect infested bush overhanging the centre of the pool and then sit back and watch the fountain show!.

PS: If you need a hand with anything let me know.

go with koi. There are some many different colors and patterns that it would look nicer than a bunch of tetras. You could keep about 90 full size koi in there. You wouldn't have to worry about heating. Koi are also very personable.

I agree if it was me i'd Definatly go with koi LOTS of koi :%)

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Pics coming very soon!

Had a chat with calla the other morning, and I added a few Koi to help with the cycling, once the cycling is over, they will be going into a friend's koi pond Tropicals it is! Still trying to find someone to hook up the solar panels for the heating...so far i got like 40 or so 300watt jagers...from previous discus breeding.

I got a nice plant order in today, 20 red tiger lotus very expensive, but they are in the shallow steps growing up. Anyone got suggestions on co2? I guess the guppies will have to return to my 2ft, I would be adding a nice school of neon tetras, a few baby sailfins, thinking a male and 2fm zebra plecos for the breeding area, lots of diffrent types of corys, a few nice angels, and a whale..lol...just joking... Planting this thing will be heaps of fun Just wondering if it would be a good idea to have fine gravel for the base...since its going to have a huge surface to fill up...what should I do? I was thinking only pots with gravel or somesort of sediment and plant the plants and lillies directly in them, just like koi ponds. Im trying to keep the water as clear as possible so you can actually see the fish swimming. A new Aussie Aquarium Plant club is going to start soon, so obtaining plants should be very easy. Just worried about the gravel.

I am also trying to obtain a nice show piece driftwood for the middle of the pool, with some nice plants growing on them. Trying to make it look as natural as possible. I was also thing a few fw stingrays, but im scared they might eat my tiny fish.

I like all those koi pics dude_dude.

The thing is if the pool is 1.5 metres deep, will you even see the cories.

The pool will look great once it gets fully planted.

Guess I will have to put on my scuba gear and head south to see them

OMG
I can't take this, I'm going cazy:%)


Even a picture of the empty pool would drive us all wild.
(make sure to geta decent camera, not a crappy one please)


Please take pictures of the steps, ya know,
like when you ad water, then plants, then some fish and then more and more and more ,Buwhahahhahahahah

Man, I just can not wait for the pics.

So many of us if not all of us have had dreams of owning a pull of fishes and swimming with them.

I have a question, I'm sorry if its stupid but
Im a noob

How are you going to plant the pool?
Are you going to add gravel to the bottom only and just plant the bottom of the pool?
I dont know what the pool looks like so Im not sure if the sides are staright up/down or not.
What I'm asking is,
If the sides are slanted would the gravel not
slide etc...

I vote that you should have potted plants.

Seriously Mango, I really wanna see this project...... Can I come around and gawk at it?

Youre living one of my dreams man.

Integra, in the wild the sand on say beaches and then into oceans. It is slanted there correct? Does the sand all dissapear down further? No, theres your answer

But that sand is on more sand, and the sand is a few dozen meters thick.

Yes..we would love to see some pics
This is everyones dream to have a swimingpool diverted to a big fishpool...what about some rays..those are cool
Hope everything goes well..good luck
Robby

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I know human beings and fish can co-exist peacefully.

Can we get some specs of the whole operation. such as filtration, heating, and possible stock list. Also some pics.

Yep please show us the pics because until you do ... I just kinda don't believe you

hey taksan, maybe yr right - has mangor taken us all for a ride?? are we all just living out our sicko fish fantasies thru his indoor pond paradise??

stay tuned for the answer!!!

"Yep please show us the pics because until you do ... I just kinda don't believe you "



You better make with the pics! People are starting to lose faith!

-Dennis

Where are these pictures??

We need to see this creation?

if it was my dream i would cut a corner of the tank off with glass and have a sitting area so can see the fish from side on, not just above.
then i would have 3 options.
1) koi - love them
2) rocky african lake setup,
3) amozon planted, bogwood etc, with discus, angels, cories, catfish?, tetras etc maybe some rams.

the dream of a shoal of 100 discus, me sitting in a lazy boy chair, cool beer in hand just watching.:%) we can just dream.

www.blooming-brilliant.co.uk

shekoi

Thats what I was thinking....... with the glass side viewing area... I was going more twords the half and half thing. After getting fish started in there could you immagine the breeding thats going to go on in a tank that size?? Baby fishes every where!!

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric

I'm still picturing guppies in a tank this big:%)and here I thought I had guppy fry everywhere:%)it is going to be insane...I really want to see this...give us pictures!!!

please

heidi

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

This is funny
I'm not picturing anything because despite several promises I've seen no pictures and for me its just too far fetched to be true

i dont know about you guys, but i agree with resle on the reef idea, that would be awesome. Another good idea...Pahrahna's anyone? the ideas are endless, but to me having a pool full of sharks would be sweet, you might want to look into some sort of cover or hood to keep out leaves, garbage and toxic rainwater of the sort...

Nick
"Impossumable- unable to play dead"

He would have to have a Class 2 category 1 reptile keepers licence. To qualify for this he has to have a Class 1 reptile keepers and have kept reptiles for atleast two years.
Pig nosed turtles are harder to find here than green pythons and are worth a few grand each.

Dayum, seriously? That's more than I thought.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.

I 2nd that or 3rd or what ever it may be by now...........

55G Planted tank thread
19G Container Pond
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/Wingsdlc/Ric

"He would have to have a Class 2 category 1 reptile keepers licence. To qualify for this he has to have a Class 1 reptile keepers and have kept reptiles for atleast two years.

Why would someone need a reptile keeps licence to keep them as pets?
Second, my local pet store had a Fly River Turtle breeding pair for sale about 2 weeks ago for $150 dollars.
Apparently we have a local breeder. I didnt know they were worth much money....


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Dont have a pic of the pool yet, but I got pics of some the inhabitants, was able to get hold of a digicam today, but didnt end up going to my uncles. All of these fish are in quartine at my place. Just got the fish last night and they have already starting to munch on the cucumbers. Im very proud of these fellers and hope they will have a happy life in the pool.

[link= Pic1]http://members.optusnet.com.au/quocluong/1.jpg [/link]
[link= Pic2]http://members.optusnet.com.au/quocluong/2.jpg [/link]
[link= Pic3]http://members.optusnet.com.au/quocluong/3.jpg [/link]
[link= pic4]http://members.optusnet.com.au/quocluong/4.jpg [/link]

4 of the plecs at 12cm each and 2 knifes at 8cm. Also 3 other Plecos, but they are too small and they hide alots, so no pics provided there. But I do promise the pics of the tank is coming in very very soon.

You dont have to believe me that im doing the pool, because I dont believe im doing this too, but I am...

Mango

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Nice pictures of fish, please hurry with the pool pictures, i can't sleep keep thinking what i'd do with a pool.

You decided on your full stock list yet?

are the pl*cos all commons?

www.blooming-brilliant.co.uk

They arnt common pleco... I got a few L14s but images are hard to take with them hidding in the driftwoods.

:#(:#( we want pics.

Was too busy taking out gold bars to pay for the fish...now to to wait to put these guys in...

How come I cant pm you?

One of my workmates friends may be able to loan out a few carp if you want something to cycle the pool with.

I dunno. Il try to clear my inbox.

Its ok Troy, I grabbed a few large Kois from my mate's pond. Hopefully they dont die cause they are his pets and I'll feel sorry for them and he will kill me.

Thanks anyways.
Steve

Shekoi, they are a species of pseudacanthicus, not a boring old pterygoplicthys. Also, Steve, I don't even want to know how much that L-14 cost you, but I'm freaking jealous. Scobinancistrus areatus is like, my dream fish.

Where do you live? I'm going to come over and take a pic of the pool myself,

EDIT: Nevermind, not even the same country

NP Steve.

Cuppa, are shekoi those yellow/tea colloured carp? I like those. There was a tv show on where they showed a $1m example raised by a monk in japan. It was quite a fish. It would want to be for a million.

Hey there,

Now this may have been mentioned but if your pool has a vinyl liner, it WILL kill your fish as the chemicals used in making the liner never really go away... You need 45 mil pond liner.

And remember for how ever long the pool held water it was running through UNDERGROUND piping which absorbs the chemicals over time, very little but it happens.

Also if you use a pool size pump even if the returns are covered with whatever it will suck the skin right off the fish....way to strong A large pond pump will do well.

You can use a real pool filter, stairight system 3 are the tops...Cartridge system so you can hose them clean.

Oh for water changes, plumb in a backwash
Hope that helps a bit, if not ask. I build pools

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he doesn't have a pool and is filling it with fish he's just teasing us and is going to drive us insane with anticipation:%)

So come on nowIt isn't that far for me to go to loony landbut I don't want to waste the gas getting there:%)Give us some picsPLEASE

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

MR_CICHLID I think this is a regular underground pool with concrete sides and bottom. Have you decided what your going to do as far as stocking it. Go with a large SA cichlid community ie Oscars, Chocolates, Acaras, and Severums. For driftwood just cut down an entire dead tree and start sterilizing it.

Yeah...just boil it in a REALLY BIG pot...

PM/email/msg me if you have any questions/comments regarding me or my knowledge or if you want me to read a thread.

If I were him I know I would not want to show pics to people who keep bugging me, maybe the guy hasnt been online yet, there is no need of calling him a lair,give him some time. This sounds sooo cool so we all are getting impatient.

Really....If he comes back and sees almost 3 pages(NOT EVERYONE) of bluntly calling him a liar I don't think we will get the pics.

We all know how much we want them so shhhhhh

*Hopes for pics*


Or even a reply make sure your not dead???



Angel Eel
P.S. And God forbid another site gets these wonderfull pics!!
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My own two bits, for planting the pool add natural red river sand at the bottom. It really isnt sand, its like very very fine muddy gravel and you can get it for free from any rivers close by.

We get it in India from our sanctuaries and stuff, and I am planning to use it for my big clown loach tank when I buy it. It will only be a couple of 100 gallons unlike ur swimming pool, but a natural substrate would be nice.

And dont forget the pictures.

are you doing that reverse psycology thing? anyway I believe him

The ranks are falling apart!

You have to show pictures of the pool or risk losing them forever!

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Jesus, he gets the point--you guys want pics. Now, surely, I want to see the pool as badly as you all do, but 5 hundred posts of "We want pics now, you liar" is not going to aid him in posting any faster. Granted, he could very well be fibbing, but again, I'm sure we've all heard enough posts requesting pictures.

I want picks mangor32, you liar! Post them now!

"pokes cup_of_lifenoodles and mangor34 with a stick"



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Trust me im getting them soon. Just got to fix my firewall, cant seem to open mailbox and cant get into my ftp.

Dude, has anyone seen my pool ?



The Amazon Nut...

SEE I KNEW IT!!! He would come back give em a break!!


Hehehe
Angel Eel

O.k, if its a concrete pool, you still have a "maindrian" @ the bottom of it.....which will pull all the sand substrate right out of the pool and really mess up your filters......
This can be done but given the length of time your doing this in I doubt your going to be problem free. this is really a huge job, no matter the kind of pool.

Just my opinion as a pool installer but i think you cut a few corners that could be huge problems later.......

What would be a huge project/problem
Taking the main-drain out?

No, you can just plug that with hydrolic cement...
Actually making a swimming pool into a monster pond...Properly...

Here's a good question, How do you plan on maintaining water quality in such a large scale with out it being electronicaly done for you?
now you can backwash a pool to remove water, but for that you need a main drain...Problem # 1.

Now this is just my opinion on this one but without taking say 3 wks (min) and thousands of dollars to achieve this it's not properly done.

This has to be the top dream of most of us here, but there's a HUGE difference between a 2000g pond and a
20 000g pool.

Dave

I would go with goldfish, a couple of eels, and a bunch of other fish. Have some fun and make it a community tank.]

gravel vacs?

Now how long do you think a 25% gravel vac would take in a pool?

yikes25% gravel vac/water change on 20,000 gallons:%)I know the 125 seems to take forever

I know our downtown Aquarium Restaurant ends up doing dives to work on cleaning, and gravel vacs...yes, they have a gravel vac, but trust me it is a lot longer than our normal 25 and 50 ft. ones:%)I don't think I ever asked them how long it took them to do a wc/gv...maybe I should call up there and ask them

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

Just to add, African Buitterflyfish should not be kept in something that does not have a top, as they will jump clear out of the water.

I thought I would add that, I don't think it was said when they were suggested to you.

Angel Eel

Just thought I would let you know in May's issue of tropical fish hobbyist on page 124 there is a pool that has been converted into cichlid spawning tank, at least the ones who have the mag can see a pic of A pool.

Quite a nice little set-up too.

Junes issue is very good as well, great pics in catfish corner. Also good pics of leafy sea dragons in the salt creep.

Angel Eel

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Please

P. S. I have half a mind to delete this post as pointless, but truly, for all the 6 pages and more suggestions we have been willing to offer to you, show us some pics. :%)

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Well, I'd love to oblige, however I think that the fact that no pics are forthcoming is rather irrelevant.

Check out all the info that you guys have dredged up! Look at all those fantastic ideas and all the technical info!

There are plenty of people that dream of converting swimming pools into ponds, this thread is a wonderful place to start


And if/when the photographs are forthcoming, I hope all who are fast to judge are just as fast to apologise.


*goes and hunts for a house with a big old pool*

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I agree with Callatya
Perhaps this person is too busy working on the pool to be bothered taking pics!
Give them a chance. If I was him/her, and I got called a liar and a fraud, I would probably not even want to show you all pictures.
Good luck on the Pool! Let us know when you get it completed, it sounds like a full summer job to me!


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I said that a long time ago in this topic.....

Big project=long time


Angel Eel

I would make it into an intire eco system with live plants turtuls crustacians (small aquatic mamles) an unbelivable mixture of fish You could also think about a 2 boats 1 old and falling to pieces for the bottom and a small one witha glass bottom
Ps you could cut costs by breading fish like there is not tomorow imaginhaving somthing as simple as a guppy at 60c each if you have you get $60

It would be cool to make a mini lake out of a pool but the upkeep would be expensive and youd need an extemley powerful filter.

another thing the water changes would be very tedius annd an average pool is about ten thousand gallons so you would need a hell of a lot of water de clorinater, not to mention u wood need a big heater. so i would just stick with a pond

i think this is a cool project, and i hope i can do somthing like it if i ever have a swimming pool, but i was just wondering, what if one of your fish got a illness which might spread or lead to expensive fish dieing, how would you provent that from happening, because it a big pool with lot fish when yor finshed so wouldn't be easy to spot a ill fish.