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Calilasseia
 
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My LFS has acquired some fishes labelled "Freshwater Flounders". I'm not sure what these are, and the only fishes I can find that even remotely resemble them in my book collection are something called Trinectes maculatus from the old Innes book, though whether that name applies to these fishes at my LFS is somewhat moot.

Anyone had experience with freshwater soles and related fishes?

Oh, by the way, my chances of buying these are virtually nil at the moment because they're wickedly expensive, but ... I'd still like some information on them.


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Hi,
Here are some links that might help you with your decision:

http://www.aquariumfish.net/pages/submitted_feedback_page_51.htm
and
http://experts.about.com/q/Freshwater-Aquarium-3216/x-1.htm
and
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/fresh/miscellaneous/truebonyfish.htm

Hope this helps or at least starts you in the right
direction...
Frank


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I've had several of them, but have found them VERY hard to keep alive for very long simply because they are NOT FW soles!

There are many species of them...most of which are brackish. They tolerate full FW to full SW at different stages in their lives, as they have a tendancy to swim upriver to spawn.

That's about all I know about them, other than they're very hard to feed...

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I'm sure i've seen these fish in an LFS before or researched keeping them at one point in my fishkeeping career.

Out of curiousity cali how much were they?

Look like a really cool fish to have, would look stunning in a great big BW tank with some archer fish and the like.
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They were £7.95 each at my LFS, and each specimen was tiny - about an inch long including the tail fin. They had an interesting mottled pattern that bore some relation to the original Innes image of Trinectes maculatus, but the problem here is that from what I can gather, there are a LOT of mottled flounders that fit that basic description! So, my chances of getting a handle on their precise ID is somewhat limited unless I can send one off to Liverpool Museum to be dissected by the resident experts, and £7.95 is rather more than I'd want to pay for a dead fish

According to the Innes book, Trinectes maculatus reaches 6 inches in length fully grown (that's 6 inches SL), and from what Frank's links above have told me, they need live food on a regular basis, so keeping the juveniles alive involves lots of Brine Shrimp hatching and the culitvation of micro-worms. Adults will progress through eating Bloodworm all the way to dining on juvenile Amano Shrimp, so perhaps the reason they're hard to keep alive is the problem of finding the requisite food in sufficient quantites - bit like the Black Morpho Tetra problem. Basically I'd need to do a LOT more research in depth before committing myself to these critters, despite the fact that they are undeniably cute to look at! Then of course there's the matter of breeding - if these fishes inhabit strongly brackish waters outside of breeding, but swim upstream to fresh water to spawn, then breeding them in an aquarium is going to be a serious challenge. Which makes me suspect that these are wild caught.

However, I gather that they need their food to be lying upon or buried in the substrate in addition, and that they need a sand substrate. Additional maintenance complications that make them, from what I've studied so far, a specialised fish that is NOT to be taken on lightly. Discus are probably less of a challenge ...


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