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willy Hobbyist Posts: 50 Kudos: 11 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Apr-2009 | ok so im am looking around to find a 6foot tank and was tossing up between the two any body have any suggestions or product reviews? also is a canister the easiest way to filter a 6 foot tank, there wont be many fish in it prolly only just gt pair and pleco maybe? cheers willy |
Posted 06-Jun-2009 02:30 | |
Gone_Troppo Enthusiast Posts: 285 Kudos: 196 Registered: 13-Mar-2007 | Hi Willy, A canister is definitely the way to go with a 6 foot tank. Most HOBs and internal filters just don't have the same water flow or media capcity. As far as eheim vs fluval I think its more personal preference than anything. There seems to be a lot of dedicated fans of each brand who will tell you that their preferred brand is better for XYZ reason. I'm currently using a much cheaper brand canister on my 6 ft tank and have had absolutely no problems with it. I guess what I'm saying is don't restrict yourself to just the 2 big names... look wider and read all the reviews you can before making your choice. G_T Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. |
Posted 06-Jun-2009 02:40 | |
willy Hobbyist Posts: 50 Kudos: 11 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Apr-2009 | thanks for the help, the one thing i seem to notice about all the post iv read on here and some other places are the fluval seems to leek? are there any cheaper canister filters that have enough flow rate the ones iv found are only for about 300 liters, if i was to buy an eheim it would cost almost as much as the tank at $550, tanks is round the $680 mark? |
Posted 06-Jun-2009 03:25 | |
donovan Fingerling Posts: 38 Kudos: 26 Votes: 143 Registered: 06-Nov-2007 | I use a ehiem 2217 this one is rated for a 90gal I use it in a 55 ,,,4 foot tank it was 80 bucks ,,I've never had a problem with it ,,just a thought how about 2 smaller canisters ,,one on each end ,,you'd get more coverage and you'd have one running if the other broke down ,,http://www.aquaristic.net/shop.php/lang/1/cl/details/anid/061013 Reduced from 120,00 € now only 89,95 € ,plus Shipping |
Posted 07-Jun-2009 06:27 | |
keithgh *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 | I would go for two Eheims of the same rating they are very reliable and quiet running BUT being quality filters they are not cheap. Remember you get what you pay for. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW |
Posted 07-Jun-2009 11:30 | |
Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001 | I run AquaOnes (300 and 650 Pro models) and have no problems there (the seals go occasionally and they can be annoying to prime, but they are gutsy little filters), but given the choice of Fluval or Ehiem, I'd choose Ehiem ba Is it a standard 6' tank or a 6x2x2? I'd consider two big AquaClears for ease of cleaning too. A standard 6' is quite long and it can be hard to avoid dead spots, but two HOBs would mean both ends are taken care of and all you have to do is turn one off and clean the media on alternate weeks. Price and convenience might make that option worth considering. |
Posted 07-Jun-2009 14:28 | |
willy Hobbyist Posts: 50 Kudos: 11 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Apr-2009 | donovan and callatya, i was wondering whether one canister would leave dead spots, that is a very good idea running two smaller ones at each end.. would two aquaclear 110 be sufficient on a six foot tank though? it will most likly a 6x2x2, i thought that was a standard 6 foot tank? i like the idea of two smaller canister filters one at each end keithgh, any recommendations on models? |
Posted 08-Jun-2009 05:14 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, Dead spots in any size aquarium are usually more the fault of poor planning in landscaping and gardening than the result of filtration. In larger aquariums the filters of choice are the canister or sump type filters. While there are some canisters that have been "shrunk" to attract folks with smaller tanks, they were designed primarily for folks with LARGE tanks. Large tanks generally hold a larger quantity of fish or just plain large fish. These tanks, as a rule have a larger than normal bio-load because of the larger than normal quantity of fish, or the messy eating habits of larger fish or the larger quantity of their waste products, both solid and liquid. Canister filters, because of their physical size, house more media which gives a larger surface area for bacterial colonies to perform the chemical filtration. They also house larger quantities of media designed for solid waste collection. They perform their filter fuctions with a much larger pump and higher turnover values than other types of filters. They generally come with two types of returns, either a single hose or a spray bar. The aiming of the return water, combined with the hard scape (rocks & ornaments) and plants is primarily what causes dead spots in the tank. You could have two canisters, with returns at each end and still wind up with dead spots. Simply choose a filter or filters that will handle the proposed bio-load of the completed tank (fully stocked & planted) and then place your returns strategically. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 08-Jun-2009 13:53 | |
willy Hobbyist Posts: 50 Kudos: 11 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Apr-2009 | frank.. well to start with thanks for the reply, i dont know much about sump filters so il stick with the canister filter, as for the bio-load there will probably only be a gt pair and maybe some bottom feeders and maybe some dither fish if i find some that i like and will last with the GT's.. as for plants i dont want too much plants in there otherwise i will need to start co2? or fertilizers, i will proly just keep to a large anubus center piece with some drift wood, or a few smaller pieces of drift wood with anubus on? thanks willy |
Posted 09-Jun-2009 08:38 | |
FRANK Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 | Hi, It sounds like a good plan. If you have enough fish and they provide enough waste products, you should have enough fertilizer, naturally, so that you won't have to add any. Should you decide to use a product such as Flourish liquid. You should not need anything other than the basic Flourish. The plants you mention get their nutrients through the roots which anchor the plant to the driftwood or rocks, and not in the gravel itself. So as the nutrients come floating by across the exposed roots the plant takes them in. Frank -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
Posted 09-Jun-2009 08:44 | |
willy Hobbyist Posts: 50 Kudos: 11 Votes: 2 Registered: 06-Apr-2009 | well you learn something new each day.. i already have a small anubus in my 29 gallon that is attached to drift wood so il be putting that in there when i get the tank.. ok hopefully i wont need to use that stuff and the plants will grow fine with out it, thanks for the help |
Posted 09-Jun-2009 09:12 |
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